Discussion for Post at 2008-01-12 00:05:52.757785http://www.jerf.org/iri/post/2857#CommentsDiscussion for Post at 2008-01-12 00:05:52.757785en-usFri, 27 Apr 2018 06:20:53 -0000 by Anon Ymous http://www.jerf.org/iri/post/2857#comment46<p>Sorry, but I can't even consider voting for a canidate who won't at least pay lip service to not torturing people...</p> <p>Best would be to not do it at all.</p> <p>Sigh, what has this country come to?</p> http://www.jerf.org/iri/post/2857#comment46 by Jeremy Bowers http://www.jerf.org/iri/post/2857#comment45<p><a href='http://bidinotto.journalspace.com/?entryid=656'>This</a> is the sort of thing I was referring to; very well-founded accusations and weak-as-can-be defenses.</p> http://www.jerf.org/iri/post/2857#comment45 by Jeremy Bowers http://www.jerf.org/iri/post/2857#comment44<p>I don't have any perfect candidates this year.</p> <p>Personally I assign a low confidence to what a candidate says his/her stance on torture is. Torture is too easy to hide, and it's easy to be glib about it on the campaign trail, harder when facing the real decision. If I were a Machiavellian politician, I wouldn't give a second thought to my real opinions, I'd consider it free posturing.</p> http://www.jerf.org/iri/post/2857#comment44 by Anon Ymous http://www.jerf.org/iri/post/2857#comment43<p>I can very much understand that.</p> <p>But really Fred? Isn't he pro-torture? (Pretty sure McCain is the only R who has come out against waterboarding...)</p> http://www.jerf.org/iri/post/2857#comment43 by Jeremy Bowers http://www.jerf.org/iri/post/2857#comment42<p>I consider him a neo-nazi, white supremacist, conspiracy theory-loving nutcase, and his protestations to the contrary I find weak and unconvincing ("Oh, I just published the stuff with my name on it front and center, I never even looked at it or believed it! Honest!" One of those "even if 100% true, who cares?" defenses.). Hard to overlook that sort of thing.</p> http://www.jerf.org/iri/post/2857#comment42 by Anon Ymous http://www.jerf.org/iri/post/2857#comment41<p>Weird, I would have thought you would've gone with Ron Paul... (Who is also talking the Federalism talk...)</p> http://www.jerf.org/iri/post/2857#comment41